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isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/aws-acquires-nlx</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 18:32:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NmMS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8478fd1c-220a-40da-bd9e-7d8e72a23be9_1200x627.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NmMS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8478fd1c-220a-40da-bd9e-7d8e72a23be9_1200x627.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Over 20 years, the cloud hyperscaler has made only eight that I could identify.</p><p>So, who is NLX?</p><p>Founded by two brothers, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreipapancea/">Andrei</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vlad-papancea/">Vlad</a> Papancea, in 2018, NLX was born out of Andrei&#8217;s experience building conversational applications and the recurring effort required to navigate technology cycles, iterate on experiences, and expand the use cases these applications can support.</p><p>This led to the creation of Canvas, NLX&#8217;s conversation builder, designed to be to conversational application design what Figma is to UI design. The platform was built to insulate application creators from the complexities of channels, communication infrastructures, and AI technologies.</p><p>The obvious question: don&#8217;t all conversational AI platforms, including Amazon Connect, already offer a no-code builder?</p><p>While almost all conversational AI platforms feature no-code development environments, most remain fairly low-level and require significant technical expertise. NLX created a platform for business users that minimizes dependencies on developers.</p><p>Its building blocks abstract application logic across channels, enabling teams to compose multi-modal experiences that guide users to the right modality at each stage of a workflow. </p><p>NLX Canvas enables teams to rapidly iterate and expand use cases, a critical success factor for deploying and scaling conversational experiences that today often depends on forward-deployed engineers.</p><p>NLX has remained focused on large enterprises with complex requirements, spanning customer experience and other enterprise use cases. Its customer roster includes Comcast, Red Bull, Saks Fifth Avenue, and Toyota.</p><p>NLX&#8217;s vision aligns closely with Amazon Connect&#8217;s mission to create ready-to-use solutions. It already extends AWS Lex Flow Builder and Amazon Connect Flows.</p><p>Now part of Amazon Connect Customer, NLX will focus on customer service use cases on the hyperscaler CX platform, while support for other platforms becomes customer-driven.</p><p>At this stage of conversational AI adoption, many enterprises are prioritizing customer self-service and selecting best-of-breed platforms. NLX enhances Amazon Connect&#8217;s ability to compete in these self-service modernization initiatives.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AWS bets on agentic business solutions, launches the Amazon Connect portfolio]]></title><description><![CDATA[At its What&#8217;s Next with AWS event, the cloud hyperscaler made several announcements, including a particularly ambitious one: the expansion of Amazon Connect into a family of agentic business solutions, which I want to unpack.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/aws-bets-on-agentic-business-solutions-launches-the-amazon-connect-portfolio</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/aws-bets-on-agentic-business-solutions-launches-the-amazon-connect-portfolio</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 02:26:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMa8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e7f530f-63a7-448f-b454-ec4ca632a7c7_2861x1763.jpeg" width="1456" height="897" 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Reset that view: it now represents a family of agentic solutions that package AWS cloud services into ready-to-use offerings.</p><p>This announcement carries real strategic weight. A few years ago, a rumor circulated that a team inside AWS was making the case for acquiring HubSpot, sparking debate about the company&#8217;s developer DNA and its ability to move up the stack into business applications.</p><p>Today, AWS is providing a clear answer to that question. It is not only building business applications, but also using agentic AI to deliver a new class of solutions.</p><p>The infrastructure giant has built a $1B business with Amazon Connect, its CCaaS solution. Using Connect as the umbrella brand for its solution portfolio signals a clear intent: replicate the same playbook that drove Amazon Connect&#8217;s success.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleen-aubrey-b90816/">Colleen Aubrey</a>, Senior Vice President of Applied AI Solutions, outlined the AWS approach: it leverages Amazon&#8217;s operational expertise, targets enduring business problems its parent could not solve with commercial software, and infuses talent from Amazon to bring that expertise into AWS. Proprietary &#8220;secret sauce&#8221; built from these in-house solutions is packaged into AI agents that function as teammates.</p><p>In addition to <strong>Amazon Connect Customer</strong>, the renamed CX/CCaaS solution, the portfolio includes three additional offerings.</p><p><strong>Amazon Connect Talent</strong> is an AI-powered hiring solution built on Amazon&#8217;s experience of hiring 250,000 associates each year for peak season. It turns job requirements into structured, skills-based assessments and AI-led voice interviews that candidates can take on their own terms. It applies science-backed scoring and evaluation models to rank candidates and improve matching quality at scale.</p><p><strong>Amazon Connect Health</strong> builds on Amazon Pharmacy and One Medical. The goal is straightforward: reduce administrative and documentation work from providers, a huge issue in care delivery. It uses agentic capabilities across the patient journey, starting with scheduling and intake to handle appointment booking, insurance checks, and reminders to reduce no-shows. During the visit, it transcribes patient conversations in real time, surfaces clinical context and coding suggestions, and generates draft clinical documentation for provider review. Every recommendation is explainable, with supporting rationale available to clinicians. Post-visit workflows, including follow-ups and medication adherence tracking, are also automated.</p><p><strong>Amazon Connect Decisions</strong> is the agentic evolution of AWS Supply Chain, addressing supply chain issues for manufactured goods. It features two AI agents, one handling the demand side and the other the supply side, that proactively surface issues and generate options. A third agent assists human decision-making, including the option to incorporate best practices from top-performing planners. The system is powered by proprietary prediction models developed from Amazon&#8217;s experience managing hundreds of thousands of SKUs across its retail and logistics footprint.</p><p>Discussing his December prediction that we will soon live in a world with over one billion agents, CEO <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgarman/">Matt Garman</a> highlighted that agentic AI is starting to enable things that weren&#8217;t possible before. Two in particular: the ability to be given a desired outcome and run the end-to-end workflow toward its realization, and the ability to free up time for humans. The Amazon Connect portfolio is aiming at delivering on that vision. </p><p>What I find most promising in AWS&#8217;s approach is that, unconstrained by any application heritage, it can tackle end-to-end processes without boundaries, exactly the scope agents are built for. It will be fascinating to watch it mature and grow.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SoundHound AI acquires LivePerson]]></title><description><![CDATA[SoundHound AI announced earlier this week its acquisition of LivePerson.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/soundhound-ai-acquires-liveperson</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/soundhound-ai-acquires-liveperson</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:28:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fhRz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a9f0e10-096e-4d48-9b91-99a5eb63f079_1920x960.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/soundhoundai/">SoundHound AI</a> announced earlier this week its acquisition of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/liveperson/">LivePerson</a>.</p><p>The price stands out. SoundHound AI is snapping up LivePerson for an equity value of $43M while gaining access to $74M of its cash. Including LivePerson&#8217;s remaining debt obligations brings the implied enterprise value to roughly $250M. </p><p>Not that long ago, LivePerson crossed the $500M revenue mark. For a company once valued at $4.7B, the road here is worth revisiting.</p><p>Founded in 1995 as a web chat pioneer, LivePerson successfully weathered the early 2000s internet bubble burst. It found renewed growth with proactive chat following its 2006 acquisition of Proficient Systems. At a time when most brands struggled to deliver effective chat experiences, the ability to engage high-value customers based on available agent capacity proved transformative. The company then expanded into a broader digital customer service platform, reaching $250M in revenue by 2015 before hitting a plateau.</p><p>Then came COVID, which boosted revenue 2x, pushing it past the $500M mark in 2022. LivePerson followed with an aggressive growth push, investing heavily in go-to-market and expanding into conversational AI through the acquisitions of BotCentral, Conversable, e-bot7, and VoiceBase, funding them by increasing debt significantly, from $200M to $750M.</p><p>2022 marked the peak. By then, contact center players had caught up on digital capabilities, and LivePerson&#8217;s digital channel edge had eroded. Its provocative market positioning, declaring the death of contact centers and aiming to eradicate 1-800 numbers, backfired: businesses still needed to support voice and increasingly valued integrated voice and digital experiences over standalone digital customer service solutions.</p><p>Revenues declined to $240M in 2025, driven by customer churn. Founder Robert LoCascio was replaced in January 2024 by John Sabino, who reduced debt to around $400M, still a high level relative to its revenues. Revenues continue to decline, expected to land around $200M for the full year. This exit should come as no surprise to industry observers.</p><p>In addition to an estimated 120 enterprise customers, SoundHound is getting a digital customer service solution with best-in-class messaging capabilities and a conversational AI platform that earned a Contender position in Forrester&#8217;s most recent Conversational AI Platforms for Customer Service Wave.</p><p>The press announcement offered little detail on SoundHound AI&#8217;s vision. We should expect it when the merger closes in the second half of 2026.</p><p>This marks SoundHound AI&#8217;s third large acquisition, with $500M as its next revenue milestone and a 2027 revenue target of at least $350M to $400M.</p><p>The real work lies ahead: streamlining four conversational AI technology streams and building a strategy that brings together its self-service and human-assisted messaging channel solutions.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[2025: The year Conversational AI challengers broke through the $100M glass ceiling]]></title><description><![CDATA[2025 marked a pivotal shift for customer-facing conversational AI (CAI).]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/2025-the-year-conversational-ai-challengers-broke-through-the-100m-glass-ceiling</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/2025-the-year-conversational-ai-challengers-broke-through-the-100m-glass-ceiling</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 03:16:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dmbr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f148f46-ae8d-411e-bc59-fa3546a41e02_3750x1959.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>2025 marked a pivotal shift for customer-facing conversational AI (CAI).</p><p>Last October, I published an <a href="https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/making-sense-of-the-conversational-ai-mayhem">industry landscape featuring 650 players</a> and highlighted how difficult it was to break through. For years, the market was defined by the three hyperscalers, AWS, Google, and Microsoft, alongside a small cohort of challengers struggling to break through the $100M ceiling and a long tail of sub-$20M players. CRM and CCaaS providers either built solutions using hyperscaler building blocks or partnered with specialists, yet made limited inroads.</p><p>In 2025, the lay of the land was redrawn.</p><p>A handful of pure-play providers have now crossed the $100M threshold. Kore.ai was the first, based on my research, to break that ceiling, followed by three others:</p><ul><li><p>Uniphore, which indicated last October alongside its Series F that it was well past $200M, with scale accelerated by acquisitions.</p></li><li><p>SoundHound AI, benefiting from the acquisitions of Amelia and Interactions, ended last year at $170M in revenue.</p></li><li><p>Sierra reported reaching $150M in ARR last December.</p></li></ul><p>2 players emerged from the customer support automation corner: Zendesk, which reached $100M in AI ARR last year, and Fin by Intercom, whose CEO Eoghan McCabe disclosed earlier this month that it was about to pass $100M ARR.</p><p>Closely behind, a solid cohort of followers above $50M is well-positioned to cross the $100M ARR mark soon, including Ada, Cresta, LivePerson, Observe.AI, Parloa, and Yellow.ai.</p><p>ElevenLabs, coming from the Voice AI space, entered the market. While it is difficult to isolate the CAI portion of its $330M ARR last year, it is likely material, and I would not be surprised to see it in this group.</p><p>CCaaS providers that relied on partners or hyperscalers are now building or acquiring their way into proprietary CAI offerings. They are likely the largest contributors to NICE AI and Self-Service ARR ($328M in 2025), Genesys Cloud AI ARR (estimated at around $300M in 2025), and Five9 AI ARR ($100M last year).</p><p>CRM players have also been aggressively putting together their own CAI offerings, positioning Oracle (Digital Assistant), Salesforce (Agentforce), SAP (CAI/Joule), and ServiceNow (Now Assist) as significant players. We should also include IBM (Watson Assistant) in this group.</p><p>Three engines are driving this growth. </p><p>First, the incredible pace of progress across three key technologies&#8212;GenAI, Agentic AI, and Voice AI.</p><p>Second, CAI is enabling new use cases that go beyond what was previously possible and are setting a new benchmark for customer experiences. Three are now mature solutions consistently delivering tangible results: customer support automation, concierge agents unifying sales and service into a continuous assisted experience, and autonomous agents qualifying and processing contact or demo requests, with others gaining traction in proactive service, nurturing and re-engagement, and back-office customer service fulfillment.</p><p>Third, businesses are ready to modernize their digital front door. Self-service has consistently topped the priority list for customer service organizations for over a year. A similar trend is emerging in sales to manage incoming appointment and demo requests.</p><p>Adoption is accelerating as technology redefines the art of the possible in customer experience. Large CAI players are beginning to establish themselves, coming from the various corners of this vibrant market. </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Stop blaming AI for layoffs. AI washing is killing the conversation]]></title><description><![CDATA[This article will be controversial.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/stop-blaming-ai-for-layoffs-ai-washing-is-killing-the-conversation</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/stop-blaming-ai-for-layoffs-ai-washing-is-killing-the-conversation</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 14:05:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t0ei!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e0138e4-304d-4c31-b377-b9237616fe5e_1200x624.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This article will be controversial.</p><p>I keep seeing posts about AI-driven layoffs that don&#8217;t match what I hear in direct conversations. The recent <a href="https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic">Citrini Research memo</a> pushed me to write this.</p><p>I do not conduct quantitative research, but I review reputable studies. What they consistently show is that overall hiring has leveled off and that layoffs have remained limited, depending on the sectors. For example, retail jobs are declining and openings for white-collar roles, particularly in finance, have dropped.</p><p>On a <a href="https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/podcast/this-week-in-business/why-hiring-has-slowed-without-mass-layoffs/">recent podcast</a>, Peter Cappelli, professor at Wharton, offered a grounded perspective. <a href="https://webinar.gartner.com/813909/agenda/session/1818949?login=ML">Gartner analyzed 1.15 million job eliminations</a> reported between July 1, 2025, and December 31, 2025, and found that fewer than 1% were due to AI.</p><p>There is significant AI washing, with layoffs attributed to AI even when the true drivers are different. It is time to stop.</p><p>Zooming in on the technology sector, here is what I have been observing over the past few quarters:</p><ul><li><p>Many CFOs moved early in 2025 to curb hiring and boost productivity in response to rising economic uncertainty.</p></li><li><p>Big Tech layoffs have been dominating the headlines and represent the closest casualty of AI. They are driven by three factors: post-pandemic overhiring corrections, growth slowdowns in large, mature product lines, and cost-cutting to fund their massive AI infrastructure investments.</p></li><li><p>The restructuring of X under Elon Musk set a precedent. The company went from roughly 7,500 employees before the takeover to fewer than 3,000 (-60%). Revenues fell from $4.4 billion in 2022 to an estimated $2.9 billion (-34%). That reset reinforced a narrative that many software organizations could operate with far fewer employees.</p></li><li><p>VCs are gravitating toward new startups with high revenue-per-employee potential, setting an aspirational $1M target.</p></li><li><p>Beyond macroeconomic pressures, the SaaS sector faces sharper investor scrutiny. For years, it operated with deep pockets to grow, while efficiency took a back seat. As growth rates normalize and AI raises questions about long-term potential, investors now expect businesses to drive decisively toward profitability. This has driven, and continues to drive, workforce reductions.</p></li></ul><p>Gartner and Forrester&#8217;s latest forecasts align:</p><ul><li><p>In October 2025, <a href="https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2025-10-20-gartner-survey-finds-all-it-work-will-involve-ai-by-2030-organizations-must-navigate-ai-readiness-and-human-readiness-to-find-capture-and-sustain-value">Gartner </a>projected AI&#8217;s net impact on global jobs to remain neutral through 2026, emphasizing workforce transformation rather than outright displacement.</p></li><li><p>Looking toward a longer time horizon, <a href="https://www.forrester.com/press-newsroom/forrester-impact-ai-jobs-forecast">Forrester</a> anticipates that automation and AI could account for about 6% of job losses in the United States, equating to roughly 10.4 million roles by 2030.</p></li></ul><p>As 2026 unfolds, I am seeing another market shift. In 2025, the top expectation from AI was headcount reduction. Today, it is shifting to a secondary consideration as enterprises embrace AI as an inevitable way of operating.</p><p>AI will unquestionably impact the job market, at minimum driving a massive redefinition of roles. Mid- and long-term predictions remain uncertain, and AI washing only clouds the picture.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Unpacking Salesforce's Agentforce Contact Center announcement]]></title><description><![CDATA[Salesforce Agentforce Contact Center announcement marks an industry-defining moment.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/unpacking-salesforce-agentforce-contact-center-announcement</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/unpacking-salesforce-agentforce-contact-center-announcement</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 20:33:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T40-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05522c29-775a-49a2-8fbe-42c1d2d42f13_2000x1125.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div 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It was the topic of many discussions at Enterprise Connect, allowing me to share a deeper analysis.</p><p>The convergence of CRM and CCaaS is not new. I wrote an article a few years ago outlining the <a href="https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/who-will-your-next-contact-center-provider-be">moves from adjacent categories into the contact center</a>. The trend is accelerating, with five prominent CRM providers now offering CCaaS: <a href="https://www.freshworks.com/freshcaller-cloud-pbx/">FreshWorks</a>, <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/dynamics-365/products/contact-center">Microsoft</a>, <a href="https://www.salesforce.com/service/contact-center/">Salesforce</a>, <a href="https://www.zendesk.com/service/contact-center/">Zendesk</a>, and <a href="https://www.zoho.com/voice/contact-center.html">Zoho</a>.</p><p>Three powerful forces are driving this evolution: </p><ul><li><p>First, data in general, and customer service interactions in particular, are critical in an AI-driven world. Salesforce was among the first vendors to recognize this and aggressively capture these conversations in its Data360 platform. </p></li><li><p>Second, despite predictions that digital would dominate, voice remains a critical modality for customer interactions. </p></li><li><p>Eventually, the complexities of voice and telecom have steadily declined since the advent of Voice over IP. While not eliminated, they have been significantly reduced, enabling more providers to include voice in their offerings.</p></li></ul><p>Many saw Salesforce&#8217;s announcement as no surprise. Indeed, <a href="https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/new-kids-on-the-block-in-the-cx-space-salesforce">it had been in the making</a> since Salesforce acquired Activa, a live chat provider, in 2010. Over the years, Salesforce assembled, through in-house development and a few tuck-in acquisitions, nearly all components required for a contact center:</p><ul><li><p>Agent desktop &#8212; Service Console or a unified workspace built with the Lightning Framework</p></li><li><p>Routing engine and agent capacity model &#8212; Omni-Channel</p></li><li><p>Digital Channels &#8212; email, SMS, chat, and messaging</p></li><li><p>Knowledge Management and Self-Service Portals</p></li><li><p>Workflow automation &#8212; Flow</p></li><li><p>A comprehensive set of AI capabilities, now unified in Agentforce for conversation intelligence, customer self-service, agent assistance, and automated fulfillment of service requests</p></li></ul><p>For voice &#8212; interactive voice response and call distribution &#8212; Salesforce leveraged partners with its OEM of Amazon Connect and deep integrations with 17+ BYO-Contact Center providers.</p><p>Until recently, Salesforce&#8217;s &#8220;surround&#8221; strategy enabled the San Francisco software giant to capture large chunks of the contact center market while partnering for voice and dodging the complexities of telephony and networks.</p><p>The 2024 acquisition of Voice AI company Tenyx signaled Salesforce&#8217;s willingness to enter the voice space. In October 2025, it launched Agentforce Voice agents, and now, with the addition of IVR and call distribution modules, it delivers a complete contact center solution:</p><ul><li><p>The new IVR enables creation of voice flows through the no-code Flow builder, connecting natively to Data360 and back-end systems via Mulesoft. Flows can include Agentforce Voice Agents. </p></li><li><p>Call distribution to human agents uses Omni-Channel Routing with full context handoff, while customer service reps continue to use the existing Omnichannel utility within their unified workspace. </p></li><li><p>The supervision console, recently modernized as part of BYO-Contact Center integrations, supports native voice calls. </p></li><li><p>Analytics and reporting were also expanded. </p></li><li><p>And of course, the solution integrates natively with Agentforce Service (CRM), Customer360 (customer profiles), Data360, and the Agentforce 360 agentic platform.</p></li></ul><p>Salesforce has put together a telecommunications layer on its Hyperforce platform, working directly with telecom wholesalers and aggregators to provide voice and SMS connectivity and take the complexity out of procuring and setting up these channels. Building a robust network is a significant endeavor, and it will be interesting to watch how coverage expands across countries.</p><p>The Voice Contact Center add-on list price is set at $75 per user per month. It puts the full solution at $300 per user per month, using the minimum prerequisite Agentforce Service Enterprise edition ($175) and the Voice Contact Center and Digital Channel bundle ($125). Customers will likely layer in Data 360 and Agentforce to unlock the full value of the solution.</p><p>Salesforce began selling its contact center module last month and reported traction in the middle market, where its all-in-one approach resonates. Salesforce has a strong customer base in that segment with a solid cohort fully vested in its platform that should provide an initial runway. To fully deliver on the all-in-one promise, Salesforce will need to round out its solution with comprehensive outbound capabilities, quality management, and workforce management. It may also have to harness the Technology Solution Distribution/Technology Advisor (TSD/TA) channel, which increasingly commands access to this segment.</p><p>I expect Salesforce to rapidly go after the enterprise segment, its largest and most important market. Success there will hinge on delivering a rich feature set. While software development speeds continue to accelerate, adding all the features this segment expects will take time. AWS took three years to enter the CCaaS Gartner Magic Quadrant and another three to reach the leaders&#8217; quadrant. Zoom entered the quadrant in two years. This provides a useful proxy for tracking progress.</p><p>Partners will be critical to Salesforce&#8217;s success in the space. The company can leverage its extensive ecosystem via strategic relationships with all global system integrators (GSIs) and many regional system integrators (RSIs). However, most already have established contact center practices on other platforms, and Salesforce will need to shoulder its way in to secure a foothold.</p><p>The 2023 collaboration announced by Genesys and Salesforce was well received by the market, resolving buyers&#8217; prior confusion over which components to source from whom. It established an industry reference for allocating roles between the platforms: CCaaS handles IVR, voice routing, workforce, and quality management; CRM provides the unified agent workspace and consolidates customer, journey, and interaction history; digital channels remain the customer&#8217;s choice. Since then, players in both categories have added Agentic platforms, expanding areas of choice and overlap. With CCaaS also available with CRM, buyers will have to reassess where to draw the lines, which may elongate sales cycles.</p><p>Like many big market moves, this announcement helps put ongoing changes into perspective. It notably counters predictions of the impending death or irrelevance of contact centers. It also highlights the erosion of traditional CCaaS vendor moats. The center of gravity for CX solutions is rapidly shifting to the data platform and managing customer communications where they begin&#8212;the customer service front door.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[From Voice AI to Conversational AI: ElevenLabs moves up the value chain]]></title><description><![CDATA[ElevenLabs has quickly become one of the most talked-about players in voice AI.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/from-voice-ai-to-conversational-ai</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/from-voice-ai-to-conversational-ai</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:05:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWUt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08a55ef0-10ff-4dd1-8933-f98b31cf73d8_3750x1959.png" length="0" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>ElevenLabs has quickly become one of the most talked-about players in voice AI. The company recently reported ending 2025 with more than $330M in annual recurring revenue (ARR).</p><p>Mati Staniszewski, the company&#8217;s founder, has candidly predicted the commoditization of voice AI and outlined how the company is moving up the value chain. </p><p>His January keynote at the <a href="https://elevenlabs.io/events/elevenlabs-summit">London company event</a> provided clear insights into their current initiatives.</p><p>The company now offers ElevenLabs Agents, a platform to build, deploy, and monitor AI agents. It includes a template for support.</p><p>The keynote demo showcased a customer service scenario where a voice AI agent assisted a rapidly growing new business owner on behalf of a government agency. The experience used natural voice and real-time interaction&#8212;ElevenLabs&#8217; core strength&#8212;but went further. It was secure: the agent verified identity with a time-limited code before sharing sensitive information. It enabled seamless transfer to a human with full context. It demonstrated proactive engagement, with the agent calling the business owner about a startup grant, and personalization, referencing previously shared growth plans. It operated across multiple channels, including WhatsApp, web, text, and phone.</p><p>As with any AI demo, it shows well; production deployments are the real test. Three companies showcased their CX agent deployments using its platform: Klarna&#8217;s voice agents delivering first-line phone support to its 35 million US customers, Deliveroo&#8217;s agents supporting rider onboarding and restaurant setup, and Deutsche Telekom&#8217;s agents managing support inquiries via app and phone.</p><p>Eleven Labs also highlighted internal use cases, including two focused on sales: an SDR agent nurturing and qualifying leads, and an events agent following up with attendees for feedback.</p><p>ElevenLabs built its name on voice AI. It&#8217;s now a conversational AI player to watch.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Zendesk continues its AI build-out]]></title><description><![CDATA[While Salesforce captured attention with its Agentforce Contact Center announcement at Enterprise Connect, Zendesk announced its 7th acquisition, Forethought.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/zendesk-continues-its-ai-build-out</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/zendesk-continues-its-ai-build-out</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2026 03:26:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kzgI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2377636b-6987-4ca5-b91a-9ed40504dfc0_1920x1080.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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boost to its roadmap through Forethought&#8217;s voice automation capabilities, complex workflow automation, and expanded access to back-end systems, including those without APIs, via browser-based automation. </p><p>Strategically, Forethought brings a standalone customer support automation solution, enabling Zendesk to target companies currently using other providers&#8217; support and ticketing platforms. </p><p>Zendesk has moved aggressively on AI, investing over $500 million across seven acquisitions in the last three years. It has also adopted the resolution-pricing model, which is transforming customer support. </p><p>After reaching $200 million in AI ARR last year, CEO <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomeggemeier/">Tom Eggemeier</a> shared the growth targets for his company: $400 million in AI ARR by year-end and $1 billion by 2028.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from RingCentral Analyst Summit 2026]]></title><description><![CDATA[On the heels of its fourth-quarter earnings, RingCentral hosted its industry analyst summit last week.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-ringcentral-analyst-summit-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-ringcentral-analyst-summit-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 22:30:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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Three key takeaways emerged.</p><p>The company continues to demonstrate strong execution. Over the past two years, it has adapted to a single-digit growth environment, reduced debt to $1.25 billion, grown free cash flow to over $500 million, and achieved GAAP profitability.</p><p>The summit was led by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiramakagon">Kira Makagon</a>, celebrating her first year as President and COO. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vladshmunis/">Vlad Shmunis</a>, founder and CEO, joined for the Q&amp;A. The team, a mix of veterans, boomerangs, and newcomers, conveyed a strong sense of alignment across all functions.</p><p>RingCentral is all-in on AI and business communications, dedicating over 60% of its engineering investments to developing new AI-based products. Several have already launched and are enjoying strong adoption. This is worth celebrating, given the challenges many face with AI adoption.</p><p>AI Receptionist (AIR) is a concierge agent delivering a unified front door across departments. AIR handles appointment booking, lead capture and qualification, and transfers to a human based on detected intent. Introduced a year ago, it has reached over 8,000 customers. Last November, RingCentral launched its AI Virtual Assistant (AVA) to support human employees. Together with AI Conversation Expert (ACE), formerly RingSense, they form the company&#8217;s &#8220;three As&#8221;&#8212;AIR, AVA, ACE. Each represents a potential entry point for applying AI and, over time, can be combined into a virtuous automate-assist-automate loop.</p><p>Also last November, RingCentral launched a customer engagement bundle, extending its RingEX communication solution to provide contact center-like voice and SMS capabilities to roles that are not full-time contact center agents. In just a few months, it surpassed 1,000 customers, highlighting market demand to expand the CX discipline and eliminate friction in customer interactions across departments.</p><p>Introduced two years ago, RingCX, RingCentral&#8217;s homegrown contact center solution, was recently enhanced with RingWEM, which combines recording, quality, and workforce management following the CommunityWFM acquisition. It now serves 1,500 customers and likely accounts for a substantial portion of the $100 million in ARR attributed to new products.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VdDH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b35697e-6153-43f1-b1c1-5da44be9a6be_1920x1080.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VdDH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b35697e-6153-43f1-b1c1-5da44be9a6be_1920x1080.jpeg 424w, 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AI Receptionist and AI Virtual Assistant, in particular, are designed for zero-effort setup and flywheel-driven improvement, enabling distribution through a product-led motion.</p><p>On the go-to-market (GTM) front, RingCentral&#8217;s success comes from elevating discussions from technical infrastructure to business impact. The company has been developing an approach tailored to its target industries, with granular vertical definitions driving effectiveness&#8212;focusing on clinics rather than the broader healthcare sector, for example. This enables highly specific conversations on where its AI solutions can deliver impact. This evolving GTM is well received by partners, enabling the company to leverage its well-established global service provider and Technology Services Distributor (TSD)/Technology Advisor (TA) channels.</p><p>RingCentral increasingly uses the term business communications. While generic in meaning, for the company, it refers specifically to essential interactions between a business and its current or future customers. RingCentral doesn&#8217;t see AI replacing human-to-human communication; on the contrary, it observes these interactions increasing within its customer base. They include customer service inquiries with contact center agents, sales conversations, communications between patients and healthcare providers, and more. Traditionally, these were handled separately&#8212;contact center software for customer service and unified communications for internal and external messaging. RingCentral&#8217;s new portfolio aims at unifying them into a continuum while harnessing AI to drive impact.</p><p>RingCentral describes its third act as RingCentral 3.0, aiming to become the front door for both human and AI agent interactions. In a crowded market, the company emphasizes its robust, large-scale communication infrastructure&#8212;a foundation built over a quarter century. Its comprehensive business communications approach, coupled with disciplined execution and a targeted focus on industries and use cases, makes its strategy very promising.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Taking stock: How CX mega players are faring in the AI revenue race]]></title><description><![CDATA[This week, Salesforce&#8217;s call wrapped up the Q4 and full-year 2025 reporting season.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/taking-stock-how-cx-mega-players-are-faring-in-the-ai-revenue-race</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/taking-stock-how-cx-mega-players-are-faring-in-the-ai-revenue-race</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 22:20:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wDSQ!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1e780d1-01ea-43e2-b882-b9be40bd1667_1280x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Salesforce&#8217;s call wrapped up the Q4 and full-year 2025 reporting season.</p><p>I continue to get questions, particularly from investors, on whether existing CX providers still have a meaningful opportunity in an AI-driven world, amid what some are calling the SaaSpocalypse.</p><p>So, this is a good moment to take stock across the public CCaaS and CRM players and assess how AI is reshaping their business:</p><ul><li><p>Salesforce AgentForce Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) reached $800M, up 169% year over year, representing 2% of total revenue.</p></li><li><p>ServiceNow Now Assist Net New Annual Contract Value (NNACV) was $600M, growing at a 67% run rate, about 4.5% of total revenue.</p></li><li><p>NiCE AI and Self-Service ARR reached $328M, growing at a 66% run rate, representing 13% of interaction management revenue.</p></li><li><p>Genesys Cloud AI ARR surpassed $250M, growing at a 60% run rate, representing 10% of total revenue.</p></li><li><p>Five9 Enterprise AI's annual run rate revenue crossed $100M, growing at a 50% run rate, representing 9% of revenue.</p></li></ul><p>These datapoints represent different metrics and, so, should be taken with a grain of salt. They mix revenue and ARR, and forward growth rates are not always disclosed, but the numbers tell a consistent story.</p><p>Incumbents from all corners of the CX market are fully participating in the AI opportunity and generating material revenue from it.</p><p>This aligns with feedback from enterprise surveys, consistently identifying customer service as a top priority for AI deployment.</p><p>Of course, these figures are dwarfed by OpenAI&#8217;s $20B and Anthropic&#8217;s $5B ARR, but only a handful of mega AI players exist at this stage. AWS and Google do not break out AI revenue, which likely falls in similar ranges, and Microsoft&#8217;s 15 million paid Copilot seats put it at a comparable level. Beyond them, Databricks is estimated at $1.4B, with all other players below $1B.</p><p>Stories of the doomed fate of seat-based SaaS vendors are premature. Another misconception to discard is that CCaaS providers are poised to become irrelevant. Managing customer conversations at the company&#8217;s front door gives these providers a clear advantage.</p><p>Of course, incumbents are/will be challenged by new entrants, but that is a discussion for another post. For now, my call is to view this market through new lenses.</p><p>Instead of fixating on seat-based models, investors should focus on how these companies are driving incremental AI revenue, transforming their platforms for the AI paradigm, and securing their positioning as a strategic AI provider that enterprises rely on for mission-critical use cases, not just for commoditizing AI features.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from Medallia Experience 2026]]></title><description><![CDATA[Last week, Medallia held its Experience user conference.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-medallia-experience-2026</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-medallia-experience-2026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2026 16:25:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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After becoming public in 2019, it expanded aggressively into multiple market adjacencies through a series of targeted acquisitions, including Strikedeck for customer success management, Zingle for customer messaging, Stella Connect for quality management, Voci Technologies for for speech analytics and conversation intelligence, Thunderhead for customer journey orchestration, and Mindful, formerly Virtual Hold, for callbacks. The 2021 acquisition by Thoma Bravo opened its latest chapter.</p><p>Mark discussed how his first 12 months focused on rebuilding a customer-centric culture and modernizing the platform, with a strong emphasis on text analytics. One of Medallia&#8217;s strategic uses of AI is to help users maximize its rich set of capabilities and remove the friction created by their sophistication, which can slow implementation and hinder full adoption. It unveiled Insights Assistant as a step up from Ask Athena in how users interact with the platform. It&#8217;s important to stress that, despite numerous acquisitions, Medallia has maintained a singular architecture, which, together with its ability to scale to meet the needs of the largest enterprises, continues to underpin this evolution. He briefly addressed financial performance for the fiscal year ended in January, pointing to business momentum and AI adoption, with more than 550 customers using its Frontline AI products.</p><p>The presence of large enterprise customers was notable. Even more significant were the stories they shared and the magnitude of their deployments. Bank of America, for example, collects data across more than 50 touchpoints through Medallia, which is used by 60,000 frontline employees in its consumer banking business.</p><p>Chief Strategy Officer <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidbanerjeewdc/">Sid Banerjee</a> urged customers to become change agents, a call to action reflecting the industry&#8217;s ongoing shift from traditional surveys to capturing a broader set of signals&#8212;including digital, contact center, physical, and franchise experiences&#8212;to drive meaningful transformations.</p><p>Experience management vendors are not immune to enterprises re-evaluating their SaaS investments in the AI era. Anecdotally, I heard that large enterprises are reaffirming their commitment to Medallia for two reasons: the platform is deeply embedded in their operations, and it can orchestrate workflows across complex organizations to share insights with customer-facing teams, celebrate successes, and assign corrective actions.</p><p>Medallia executives expressed strong conviction that combining signals not only generates insights exponentially but also establishes the foundation to link them to key outcomes&#8212;revenue, retention, operational inefficiencies, risk reduction, and regulatory compliance.</p><p>Text analytics is central to enabling this vision. Chief Product Officer <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinfabrice/">Fabrice Martin</a> explained that while AI can operate unsupervised to surface insights from massive datasets, Medallia has found that topics remain foundational: they ensure traceability by linking insights to actual experiences and enable consistent tracking over time to measure improvement. To support this, Medallia announced Smart Topic Builder, which helps identify topics, define the keywords and linguistic rules to track them, and audit their precision to validate the rules.</p><div class="image-gallery-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;gallery&quot;:{&quot;images&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/93d2e3e0-ea23-4539-ba87-56ff199ffc58_1246x703.png&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/01563d79-e310-4642-83bd-14cb394a5499_1245x700.png&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/332ae01f-3d4e-4201-b861-aad44ed75f30_1245x701.png&quot;}],&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Medallia Smart Topic Builder&quot;,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;staticGalleryImage&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/54f35fca-f6a7-4f48-bb9b-4511ccdd5a45_1456x474.png&quot;}},&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><p>The scale of data Medallia collects and connects is impressive, positioning the platform to play a pivotal role for AI-driven insights, as highlighted by its <a href="https://www.medallia.com/press-release/medallia-and-ada-announce-strategic-partnership/">strategic partnership with Ada</a> announced last month. To fully seize this opportunity, Medallia and Experience Management providers more broadly will need to actively drive customers to place these platforms at the center of sales and customer service workflow design.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Beyond the demo: The new playbook for AI success]]></title><description><![CDATA[I continue to reflect on last year&#8217;s learnings, and today I want to discuss the evolving role of pilots.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/beyond-the-demo-the-new-playbook-for-ai-success</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/beyond-the-demo-the-new-playbook-for-ai-success</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:35:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wDSQ!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1e780d1-01ea-43e2-b882-b9be40bd1667_1280x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to reflect on last year&#8217;s learnings, and today I want to discuss the evolving role of pilots.</p><p>For the past decade, the software and SaaS sales playbook has revolved around a product demo followed by a pilot:</p><ul><li><p>Early-stage efforts would focus on securing a demo that provides a high-level view of the product and serves as a stepping stone to identify a small set of priority use cases tied to the customer&#8217;s most pressing business issues.</p></li><li><p>Sellers would then guide the customer toward a tightly scoped pilot addressing one or two of those issues. The pilot would validate usability with a subset of users and confirm that the targeted workflows operate effectively within the customer&#8217;s operational context.</p></li></ul><p>These pilots would typically be short and narrowly defined, handled by Customer Success Managers, with exit criteria framed as straightforward checklists, and failure rates kept low largely thanks to their limited scope.</p><p>Today, AI is reshaping the playing field.</p><p>AI demos are compelling and often impressive, but what comes after is a cliff. It is hard for prospective buyers to visualize what it actually takes to put AI to work in their own environment. It is equally challenging to define and measure success, set clear expectations for results, and fully grasp what ongoing operations and continuous improvement will require.</p><p>To address these questions, buyers are turning to pilots of a very different caliber: true trials. In its 2026 State of Business Buying report, Forrester found that more than 60% of B2B buyers include a trial in their purchase process.</p><p>One finding from the same study underscores the challenges of these pilots: half of the trials for $1+M projects result in either the project being halted or a vendor switch.</p><p>Vendors are responding by supplementing or replacing Customer Success Managers with forward-deployed engineers (FDEs). In many cases, FDEs continue beyond the initial trial to drive ongoing improvement and expansion.</p><p>Success also requires a methodology overhaul that addresses:</p><ul><li><p>Discovery of the customer environment</p></li><li><p>Assessment of data readiness</p></li><li><p>Managing potential employee resistance to change and upskilling</p></li><li><p>Identifying practical measures of success</p></li><li><p>Building and prioritizing the use case portfolio</p></li><li><p>Managing the ongoing cycle of improvements</p></li></ul><p>Eventually, success also requires stepping back to reassess which problems to pursue. Until last year, most companies would favor &#8220;safe&#8221; initial use cases with limited risk but modest upside. Today, there is greater readiness to apply AI to bigger problems that command higher upside. The good news is that more businesses are comfortable with measures of success that don&#8217;t mechanically translate into cost-cutting or revenue gain, but they do expect tangible improvement.</p><p>This isn&#8217;t a temporary adjustment. The combination of deeper technical involvement, comprehensive methodology, and sharper use case selection is setting a new standard for putting AI to work.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from AWS re:Invent 2025]]></title><description><![CDATA[AWS turned re:Invent earlier this month into a platform to accelerate its Agentic AI strategy.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-aws-reinvent-2025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-aws-reinvent-2025</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2025 17:53:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rcyn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e2a4789-68b1-4715-bdad-24b7bb3d83f6_1280x720.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a 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The cloud leader has taken a fast-follower approach in the Agentic AI race, launching toolkits and frameworks designed for enterprise-scale deployment and adoption.</p><p>Amazon Connect, fresh off crossing the $1B ARR mark, centered its announcements on packaging AI agents for its contact center suite. </p><p>For human agents, it offers prebuilt AI agents that support Q&amp;A, case summarization, task automation, real-time recommendations, automated note-taking, and message writing. In one year, AI-enhanced interactions doubled from 6 billion to 12 billion minutes over a 12-month period.</p><p>For self-service, Amazon Connect has expanded its capabilities with AI agents and the ability to combine deterministic and agentic workflows. It also introduced integration with AWS&#8217;s homegrown voice AI model, Nova Sonic, delivering near-human voice quality with low-latency speech-to-speech performance. Paired with its per-minute, all-inclusive AI pricing unveiled at Enterprise Connect, it underscores an aggressive move to modernize voice self-service IVRs. Notably, <a href="https://elevenlabs.io/blog/we-cut-our-pricing-for-conversational-ai">ElevenLabs cut its pricing by 50%</a> two weeks later, signaling a broader industry push for voice AI adoption as we enter 2026.</p><p>Another significant feature introduced is Journeys, multi-step experiences that can be campaign-driven or event-triggered. Building on the proactive service vision unveiled at last year&#8217;s re:Invent, Journeys lets businesses engage customers interactively via voice, email, SMS, or WhatsApp. Proactive service has long been elusive for customer service organizations. With AI, it is now both feasible and essential as self-service and automation de-intermediate brands from customers. This positions Amazon Connect at the forefront of a major industry trend.</p><p>In 2024, AWS shifted the Amazon Connect positioning from a composable suite to an all-in-one solution, highlighting its out-of-the-box capabilities. This led to the renaming of individual components into capabilities. Contact Lens, for example, is being subsumed into Amazon Connect AI-powered conversational analytics. Reference architectures, previously featured in nearly every presentation, were largely absent from the 25+ Amazon Connect sessions.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tcUe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5f822fc-fe9e-4c39-a150-5cd63d4e9f7f_3840x2160.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tcUe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5f822fc-fe9e-4c39-a150-5cd63d4e9f7f_3840x2160.png 424w, 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At $1B ARR, expanding into the midmarket represents a logical growth path. This further aligns with Amazon Connect&#8217;s positioning within AWS Applied AI Solutions, a group with a core mission to democratize access to AWS&#8217;s AI services.</p><p>One related development is the OEM relationship with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/zendesk/">Zendesk</a>. At the event, the customer and employee service specialist was named AWS Customer Experience Partner of the Year (Technology) &#8211; Global, and the companies announced a <a href="https://www.zendesk.com/newsroom/press-releases/zendesk-announces-strategic-collaboration-agreement-with-aws-to-deliver-ai-powered-contact-center-transformation/">strategic collaboration agreement</a> enabling the vendor to assemble a cohesive solution, Zendesk Contact Center, on top of its Resolution Platform. This zero-middleware solution extends Amazon Connect&#8217;s reach in the small and midmarket segments. Leveraging Zendesk&#8217;s positioning and track record of simplifying customer service is a smart move from AWS.</p><p>At re:Invent, AWS not only unveiled Amazon Connect&#8217;s agentic capabilities but also positioned its customer experience suite at the forefront of its strategy to drive adoption of its AI services.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Decoding Genesys results and what they reveal about contact center growth]]></title><description><![CDATA[Three months ago, Tod Famous challenged us to reconcile Genesys Cloud ARR growing nearly 35% year over year with a cloud contact center market growth rate of 12%.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/decoding-genesys-results-and-what-they-reveal-about-contact-center-growth</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/decoding-genesys-results-and-what-they-reveal-about-contact-center-growth</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 17:48:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YZp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35773d53-a754-4ec0-a02c-774d59ae06bf_3840x2006.png" width="1456" height="761" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Three months ago, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7371897742710710272">Tod Famous challenged us</a> to reconcile Genesys Cloud ARR growing nearly 35% year over year with a cloud contact center market growth rate of 12%.</p><p>The 12% market growth rate reflects the average of public companies. It aligns with the SaaS new normal and exceeds Gartner&#8217;s forward-looking 9% projection.</p><p>Genesys defines Cloud ARR as fiscal quarterly revenue, combining committed contracts and usage-based revenue, multiplied by four, making it a somewhat apples-to-oranges comparison.</p><p>The difference still feels significant. After Genesys reported third-quarter metrics with Cloud ARR approaching $2.4B, up more than 30% year over year, I received another wave of questions about the contact center market growth that pushed me to dig through all its announcements to estimate its revenue trajectory.</p><p>The exercise was not trivial: some announcements read like a treasure hunt, for example, &#8220;after exceeding $250M during the second quarter, Genesys Cloud AI ARR continued its strong momentum, with a year-over-year rate more than twice that of Genesys Cloud ARR and accelerating from the previous quarter.&#8221;</p><p>After some triangulation, I was able to piece together quarterly revenues by cloud, legacy products, and professional services. The attached chart shows my findings. Keep in mind, these are back-of-the-envelope estimates.</p><p>I find that the company&#8217;s last-quarter cloud revenues grew an impressive 33%. Turning the on-premises installed base into cloud customers has been driving a significant portion of growth. Genesys appears to be executing this exceptionally well, a remarkable performance given the angst its legacy product&#8217;s end-of-life announcement generated and the fate of other on-premises providers whose installed bases have plummeted. Total product revenue grew a solid 13%.</p><p>Reports of the end of contact center growth have been greatly exaggerated.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Learnings from the 8th edition of the CX landscape]]></title><description><![CDATA[A little present before Christmas: the 8th edition of the CX landscape is out.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/learnings-from-the-8th-edition-of-the-cx-landscape</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/learnings-from-the-8th-edition-of-the-cx-landscape</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 02:50:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aAC6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb002a285-07f2-4668-84c9-11788b38599d_3840x2179.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div 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I got it over the line before the end of the year.</p><p>The total number of participants grew by 12% since July 2024 to 1,300. CX remains a strategic and attractive market, and it delivers many of the top AI use cases. That growth should surprise no one.</p><p>Conversational AI and customer-facing agents drove the largest increase, with, in particular, a surge of new entrants in customer support automation and voice agents. The category is maturing fast. It was once a hyperscaler-led market with a long tail of small players. In 2025, several providers will cross $100M ARR, with a solid cohort over $50M.</p><p>Beyond customer self-service and agent augmentation, agents are emerging for workflow automation, driving the birth of an AI Agent Platform category.</p><p>Data platforms have made their coming out. For years, CRMs served as the reference customer data repository while other players positioned themselves as feeders of interaction details and dispositions into those systems of record. With AI, more providers now see the imperative for a comprehensive data foundation, consolidating interaction records, recordings, transcripts, and customer profiles into dedicated platforms.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hO1N!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12031f80-9b96-40db-a0bf-b1831944e92a_3840x1249.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hO1N!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12031f80-9b96-40db-a0bf-b1831944e92a_3840x1249.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This 8th edition may well be the last to use the current construct.</p><p>I created the first version in 2017 based on a few assumptions:</p><ol><li><p>Self-service would become the front door for service.</p></li><li><p>The system of engagement would be contested between interaction management platforms, including CCaaS with a voice lineage, Digital Customer Service with a digital channel lineage, and CPaaS with a messaging lineage, and workflow platforms, whether CRM or BPM/low-code platforms.</p></li><li><p>Analytics would remain a distinct layer, combining best-of-breed applications and aggregation platforms.</p></li></ol><p>This framework has remained remarkably stable, evolving only slightly over the years.</p><p>As I reflect on the changes of the past year, it&#8217;s time to consider structural changes.</p><ul><li><p>Data platforms are eclipsing interaction management and workflow software as the foundation of the CX stack.</p></li><li><p>Above this, an agentic layer will emerge, supported by a monitoring and control layer.</p></li><li><p>Self-service and human service, historically loosely coupled, will become tightly intertwined to enable new, collaborative motions.</p></li><li><p>Resolution and fulfillment workflows will become an integral part of the stack.</p></li><li><p>The CX stack will need to support not just service and support but also sales and retention, demanding new capabilities and accommodating these new roles.</p></li><li><p>Work allocation, once focused on instant distribution of inbound inquiries, will change. Combine the new roles to support, a more diverse mix of real-time, asynchronous, and deferred/scheduled interactions, and the growth of outbound driven by proactive service enabled by AI, and the result is a different work allocation model.</p></li></ul><p>But that&#8217;s for next year...</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from Five9 CX Summit 2025]]></title><description><![CDATA[Five9 held its CX Summit last week in Nashville, introducing three new products.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-five9-cx-summit-2025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-five9-cx-summit-2025</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 23:08:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!amU_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F880aa3ec-c605-4fad-a318-b2ff849dff10_1920x1080.png" width="1456" height="819" 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I wasn&#8217;t at the event, but was briefed on them.</p><p><strong>Five9 Genius Routing</strong> - Most contact center routing today relies on rules. Low-code tools have simplified workflow design, letting practitioners visualize decision chains. But as rules compound, complexity can grow rapidly, making changes delicate and risking triggering unintended side effects.</p><p>AI routing is not new. It was pioneered by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/afiniti-com/">Afiniti</a> and Mattersight, now part of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/nice-systems/">NiCE</a>, harnessing AI to pair interactions with agents based on goals such as maximizing sales or minimizing churn. While effective, practitioners have remained on the fence, concerned about the black-box nature of AI algorithms.</p><p>Today, the industry has grown accustomed to and comfortable using AI for optimization, setting the stage for its adoption in routing to take off. Five9 Genius Routing uses multi-criteria optimization with the ability to loosen criteria to ensure service levels are met. Its APIs pull inputs from performance management&#8212;agent profiles, proficiency levels&#8212;and self-service&#8212;intent, urgency, emotion&#8212;to make routing decisions in under 200 ms.</p><p><strong>Five9 Agentic QM - </strong>Five9 stressed that the &#8220;A&#8221; in its AQM solution stands for Agentic, not Automated. It provides autoscoring with visibility into the &#8220;why&#8221; via Interaction Viewer. The solution operates in real time, autonomously selecting priority actions and surfacing them to supervisors.</p><p>CTO <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanrosenberg1/">Jonathan Rosenberg</a> emphasized the intelligent scoring baked into the solution, which requires sharp-precise prompting. It took four iterations of its prompting to reach the desired performance, leveraging its &#8220;Golden dataset&#8221; and capturing best practices.</p><p><strong>Five9 OneVUE - </strong>a unified repository for CX data across Five9 and other systems. It leverages Aceyus technology, acquired two years ago, to ingest third-party data&#8212;Voice of the Customer, CRM, etc.&#8212;and combine it with Five9 Data Lake. The solution layers dashboards and analytics on top of this aggregated dataset.</p><p>Through product demos, Five9 made innovation the centerpiece of its keynote.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[RingCentral’s 3Q25 earnings call hints at market inflection points]]></title><description><![CDATA[Two interesting takeaways from RingCentral&#8216;s 3Q25 earnings call:]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/ringcentral-3q25-earnings-call-hints-at-market-inflection-points</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/ringcentral-3q25-earnings-call-hints-at-market-inflection-points</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Ad-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5ac6bde-a2f9-4e2f-888b-bb369eab9059_2000x1125.png" length="0" 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are increasingly happening outside the customer service department.<br><br>For example, in June at the Databricks Data + AI Summit 2025, Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JP Morgan Chase, noted its service and call centers were employing 150,000 people, a significant share of the 320,000-strong financial institution.<br><br>We have been talking about harnessing all departments for customer communications for nearly 20 years, but the reality is that it was mostly vendors teasing the art of the possible rather than a real market demand.<br><br>Now it is not only happening, but businesses are investing in tools to manage these customer interactions with the same rigor applied to their contact centers.<br><br>The second noteworthy observation is that RingCentral&#8217;s AI portfolio is enjoying strong traction, notable given how challenging AI adoption has been for many businesses.<br><br>The company shared a chart at its investor briefing showing rapid product uptake. These are billed products, not bundled capabilities, demonstrating that simple, high-value AI use cases can be delivered out of the box for SMBs.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from Crescendo Live 2025]]></title><description><![CDATA[The debate over the optimal model for driving AI adoption has taken a prominent place in every CX conversation.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-crescendo-live-2025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-crescendo-live-2025</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 19:34:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4KBm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b7ecd7f-04ea-4295-b36d-cdb401773b05_2094x1172.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The debate over the optimal model for driving AI adoption has taken a prominent place in every CX conversation.</p><p>Value Realization and Forward Deployed Engineers are increasingly introduced by software providers, going beyond traditional customer success to embed more deeply into customers&#8217; business and technology stacks and to accelerate the application of AI.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/crescendocx/">Crescendo</a> represents a new breed of BPO, one that leverages AI to transform its clients&#8217; customer service operations. This week&#8217;s Live event in San Francisco offered a firsthand look at how their model works.</p><p>While technology-enabled BPOs are not new, Crescendo distinguishes itself by fully embracing an outcome-driven approach. Founder <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-lee-b367595/">Andy Lee</a>, also executive chairman and founder of Alorica, one of the largest outsourcing providers, is clearly positioning the company to disrupt the traditional BPO model.</p><p>Crescendo began as a technology provider and expanded into business process outsourcing, notably through its acquisition of Partner Hero.</p><p>Launched earlier this month, its Total Outcome Guarantee model makes four bold promises:</p><ul><li><p>Pay only for resolutions, whether handled by AI or a human.</p></li><li><p>Achieve results that surpass your current bot.</p></li><li><p>Go live in under 30 days.</p></li><li><p>No charge if a customer experiences a negative outcome.</p></li></ul><p>The company recently hit $100M in Annual Recurring Revenue and, consistent with my broader market observations, is gaining strong traction in customer support and e-commerce.</p><p>At their event, I had the opportunity to sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tfamous/">Tod Famous</a>, Crescendo&#8217;s CPO, who unpacked the foundations of their model:</p><ul><li><p>Every month, customers receive proactive suggestions driven by AI analysis of their operations.</p></li><li><p>Technology is applied where it delivers immediate impact, leveraging both existing software and Crescendo&#8217;s proprietary solutions.</p></li><li><p>The company takes responsibility for content and recommends process changes when they improve results.</p></li><li><p>(Human) agents provide proactive recommendations to address content gaps, complexities, and inaccuracies.</p></li><li><p>The approach requires no upfront investment.</p></li></ul><p>Behind its technology are the &#8220;two Slavas,&#8221; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/slavazhakov/">Slava Zhakov</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/slavasayko/">Slava Sayko</a>, who together bring nearly 50 years of experience from their tenure at Genesys.</p><p>Crescendo&#8217;s model is one to watch, particularly for mid-sized companies wrestling with the pace of AI evolution and the growing volume of customer service demands.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from Dreamforce 2025]]></title><description><![CDATA[One year after introducing Agentforce and executing a remarkable pivot, Dreamforce offered the perfect opportunity to take stock of Salesforce&#8217;s progress on the Agentic AI front.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-dreamforce-2025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-dreamforce-2025</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 15:25:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qVgB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6053fe62-0730-44aa-865e-96f6721300a2_1200x630.png" width="1200" height="630" 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The event also revealed how deeply AI is shaping its SaaS business and growth trajectory. </p><p>Here are my nine takeaways.</p><p><strong>Agentforce 360</strong> - Salesforce unveiled the fourth major iteration of its Agentforce platform, now renamed Agentforce 360. Agentforce 2 introduced the Testing Center to validate agents for greater reliability and accuracy. Agentforce 3 added the Command Center to provide visibility and observability, enabling real-time monitoring and optimization. This fourth release adds Agentforce Script, enabling deterministic agent behavior by combining structured instructions with LLM reasoning. It also improves handling of complex documents through advanced context indexing and deeper integration with Data 360. Salesforce&#8217;s rapid iterations underscore a clear reality: deploying, monitoring, and optimizing AI agents remains a complex undertaking.</p><p><strong>Traction and Scale </strong>- Interest in Agentforce is undeniable: 12,000 customers are currently experimenting with the platform, with 13,000 implementations underway. The key question is how much of this will convert into paid, production deployments. Salesforce expects paying Agentforce and Data Cloud customers to double to 10,000 by year-end, up from 5,000 at the start of the year. Agentforce alone contributed $440M of the $1.2B Data 360 and AI ARR achieved in Q2 FY26.</p><p><strong>Adoption Model </strong>- Salesforce is reshaping its customer success model around Forward Deployed Engineers (FDEs), a model pioneered by Palantir. It plans to deploy 1,000 FDEs by year-end and expand capacity through partners. The move reflects Salesforce&#8217;s conviction that hands-on engineering engagement is critical to Agentforce and AI adoption.</p><p><strong>Pricing Evolution </strong>- Salesforce took stock of the evolution of Agentforce pricing introduced over the past twelve months. It expanded the per-conversation model with flexible credits applicable across multiple consumption metrics. In Q2, it added a per-seat option offering unlimited, unmetered access to Agentforce for Cloud users. It also launched a hyperscaler-style framework, enabling customers to buy discounted credits through pre-committed usage, and introduced flex agreements to convert seat-based licenses into consumption. Most recently, in July, Salesforce rolled out an Agentic Enterprise License Agreement&#8212;a flat-fee model granting unlimited access to both Data Cloud and Agentforce.</p><p><strong>Agent Orchestration</strong> - Salesforce introduced MuleSoft Agent Fabric, a new framework for Agent orchestration. It combines agent and tool cataloging for discovery, a robust trust and security layer, and the MuleSoft Agent Visualizer for full observability, addressing the challenges of managing AI agents at scale.</p><p><strong>Voice AI</strong> - Salesforce unveiled Agentforce Voice, enabling the creation of Voice AI agents powered by its Tenyx acquisition from last year, extending AI capabilities into natural, conversational voice interactions.</p><p><strong>IT Service Management (ITSM) </strong>- Salesforce introduced Agentforce IT Service to enter the ITSM market, a move that felt somewhat in response to ServiceNow&#8217;s expansion into CRM. Expanding into new, large markets remains essential to sustaining its growth trajectory.</p><p><strong>Slack at the forefront</strong> - Salesforce is making a major push to position Slack as the universal client for its suite of applications. Slack now gives employees who are not Salesforce Cloud users access to apps and the ability to search across all enterprise data and knowledge assets. The platform emphasizes conversational experiences, offering an alternative to complex scrolling and navigation using Lightning. For example, Slack channels provide direct access to and monitoring of Salesforce objects.</p><p><strong>The next frontier</strong> - Salesforce set a bold long-term revenue target of $60B (ex-Informatica) by FY30, reflecting a 10% organic CAGR. While a reset from its 2022 plan, it remains an ambitious and assertive growth goal.</p><p>Salesforce is clearly doubling down on its AI-driven transformation. Despite headwinds, the enterprise application juggernaut is demonstrating remarkable agility in aggressively seizing its AI opportunity.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Musings from NiCE Analyst Summit 2025]]></title><description><![CDATA[I attended the NiCE Industry Analyst Conference.]]></description><link>https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-nice-analyst-summit-2025</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.cacubeconsulting.com/p/musings-from-nice-analyst-summit-2025</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolas De Kouchkovsky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 15:03:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fIDb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f342aee-c53c-4e1b-b676-9bc8d5a676ec_1488x910.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" 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It was my first, and it fully lived up to its reputation for delivering an exceptional experience. </p><p>Held in Vienna, a city I hadn&#8217;t visited in 25 years, the event was both inspiring and deeply informative.</p><p>It showcased a revamped leadership team around <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/serussell1/">Scott Russell</a> with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleleecooper/">Michelle Cooper</a>, who joined as Chief Marketing Officer this spring; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heltewig/">Philipp Heltewig</a>, Cognigy&#8217;s founder, who came through the acquisition of his company this summer; and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffcom/">Jeff Comstock</a>, the newly appointed President of Product &amp; Technology, joining just weeks ago from Microsoft, where he played a key role in building the world&#8217;s second-largest CRM.</p><p>NiCE envisions a future where tier 1 and 2 interactions will gradually shift to Agentic AI, with human engagement taking on a new role. </p><p>The company is evolving its CCaaS offering into a CX AI platform designed to not only manage customer interactions but also orchestrate the end-to-end fulfillment chain. This ambition extends beyond the front office into the middle and back offices.</p><p>NiCE acknowledges that AI is tearing down traditional product boundaries and is poised to create a new breed of customer engagement platform. It sees CX AI as a highly contested market, with CCaaS players, CRM vendors, hyperscalers, and specialized point-solution providers all vying for dominance.</p><p>In this crowded space, NiCE&#8217;s strategy is driven by its belief in three success factors: a focus on CX, ownership of the point of customer engagement, both human and automated, and access to conversational data.</p><p>NiCE is also making speed a key differentiator. In this fast-changing, unpredictable market, Scott has put his motto &#8220;speed is a choice&#8221; into action, driving change aggressively. He leads with the conviction that capturing the CX AI opportunity requires both urgency and a relentless bias for action. This summer, NiCE boldly scooped Cognigy, one of the industry&#8217;s leading conversational AI platforms, to accelerate its strategy.</p><p>The alignment and shared sense of purpose across the leadership team are striking, given the mix of company veterans and recent hires.</p><p>The technology update from the product GMs shows a company actively advancing its vision.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JkKo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14d4c665-e68c-4cb7-98e2-fd9d66382f5f_2716x1589.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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It goes well beyond capturing conversations, creating a rich dataset augmented with metadata. An impressive demo highlighted its potential: conversations are enriched with outcomes from CRM, other systems, or even screen captures. AI then generates metadata, creating a meaningful dataset from which customer intents can be discovered and desired outcomes inferred. The platform then identifies opportunities for automation, agent enablement, and content optimization, with automation opportunities sent directly to Cognigy as prompts to create AI agents.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitharris/overlay/about-this-profile/">Tim Harris</a> framed his discussion around how automation is reshaping the customer service model. The traditional contact center model relies on generalists who respond to customer inquiries quickly and hand off complex cases to specialists in the back office for fulfillment. NiCE is seeing a surge in demand to support specialists. It expects this trend to continue, driven by the increase in automation of simple interactions. Specialists need a different technology, one that streamlines and optimizes end-to-end workflows. This dynamic prompted the launch of NiCE Orchestrator earlier this year. The software ingests data, identifies workflows, maps their steps, and suggests improvements. Designed as an &#8220;over-the-top&#8221; layer, NiCE Orchestrator augments existing case management, workflow automation, and other systems of record, marking the company&#8217;s foray into workflow orchestration.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/omri-hayner-7b816ba/">Omri Hayner</a> outlined how NiCE is reinventing Workforce Engagement Management (WEM). He noted that while the front office operates in real time, driven by Average Handling Times (AHT) and service levels, back-office work is asynchronous, throughput-driven, and focused on resolutions. It requires a different approach to maximizing its performance. NiCE is developing an &#8220;all-encompassing&#8221; WEM that spans human and AI agents across both front and back offices. Unlike the contact center, back-office departments are typically data-poor, presenting a key challenge for AI. Leveraging its PlayVox acquisition from a year ago, NiCE is assembling a data foundation to reinvent how it optimizes the workforce with AI.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heltewig/overlay/about-this-profile/">Philipp Heltewig</a> provided an update on the Cognigy platform, whose acquisition by NiCE this summer marked a major step in realizing the company&#8217;s vision. Cognigy boasts sizable deployments, notably at Allianz, one of the world&#8217;s largest insurers. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benno-schindler-44899917/">Benno Schindler</a>, Tribe Lead for Conversational AI at Allianz Technology, shared his organization&#8217;s journey with both passion and vision, highlighting impressive results. Cognigy offers best-in-class Agentic AI capabilities and continues to impress with the speed at which it incorporates new AI technologies. Its Agentic AI supports both deterministic and agentic workflows, with Philipp seeing a huge potential for hybrid AI agents capable of handling both transactional and informational inquiries.</p><p>I left the event impressed not just by the vision, but by the alignment of the leadership team and how that vision is being fleshed out and actively executed. NiCE has clearly put its motto, &#8220;speed is a choice,&#8221; to work.</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>